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  • From: Nikhil Jain <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Mark F. Adams" <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
  • Cc: charm AT cs.illinois.edu, Edgar Solomonik <solomon AT eecs.berkeley.edu>, Francesco Miniati <fminiati AT hpcrd.lbl.gov>, Brian Van Straalen <bvstraalen AT lbl.gov>, "Kale, Laxmikant V" <kale AT illinois.edu>
  • Subject: Re: [charm] Distributed memory sorting.
  • Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:55:27 -0500
  • List-archive: <http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/charm/>
  • List-id: CHARM parallel programming system <charm.cs.uiuc.edu>

You will need to build from scratch (delete the mpi-crayxe folder and
then rebuild). Newer files were added recently to Charm, but build
skips file symlinking if folder already exists.

--Nikhil

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mark F. Adams
<mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
wrote:
> I just pulled charm and I get this error. This worked a few weeks ago.
> Mark
>
> $ ./build charm++ mpi-crayxc
> [snip]
> ar: creating ../lib/libconv-cplus-n.a
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_util.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_toNetwork.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_toNetwork4.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_xlater.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_c.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_paged.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. pup_cmialloc.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. ckimage.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. ckdll.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. ckhashtable.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. sockRoutines.c
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. conv-lists.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. RTH.C
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. persist-comm.c
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. mempool.c
> ../bin/charmc -c -I. graph.c
> gmake: *** No rule to make target `partitioning_strategies.h', needed by
> `TopoManager.o'. Stop.
> -------------------------------------------------
> Charm++ NOT BUILT. Either cd into mpi-crayxc/tmp and try
> to resolve the problems yourself, visit
> http://charm.cs.illinois.edu/
> for more information. Otherwise, email the developers at
> charm AT cs.illinois.edu
>
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Nikhil Jain
> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Edgar and I were able to locate the bug and fix it. I tested on
>> Hopper, and sorting seems to work fine. However, the code crashes
>> later on in because of some assertion failure. Please have a look and
>> tell us if it is related to sorting.
>>
>> --Nikhil
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Nikhil Jain
>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> The permissions for petsc folder in your home seems to have changed. I
>>> will able to use it day before yesterday, but couldn't do it yesterday
>>> and today. Can you have a look? Given the heavy occupancy of Edison, I
>>> am debugging using Hopper (using xe6 arch).
>>>
>>> --Nikhil
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The code was replicated because we wanted to bring all benchmarks
>>>> under one umbrella "benchmarks/*", but did not want to remove the
>>>> original code for those who wants to use pure charm++ version.
>>>>
>>>> StartCharmScheduler() is being invoked correctly; it is meant to be
>>>> invoked in each sorting call. Give me a day or so, and I hope to
>>>> resolve the issue.
>>>>
>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Edgar Solomonik
>>>> <solomon AT eecs.berkeley.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I find it a bit odd that the parallel sorting library was moved to a
>>>>> different place in the charm repo, especially since the old library is
>>>>> still
>>>>> there, which is the one I developed and was looking at. Code should
>>>>> not be
>>>>> replicated in this fashion. It looks like this error is happening on
>>>>> the
>>>>> StartCharmScheduler() call in the new MPI interface (I had thought the
>>>>> error
>>>>> was in the mainData.C code, since I am used to seeing the stack in the
>>>>> reverse order). I have no experience with invoking Charm in this
>>>>> fashion,
>>>>> but I would think that it should only happen once during application
>>>>> execution, while it looks like this call is made every time the code
>>>>> sorts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note, you need to edit files in psorting so you might just want to
>>>>>> copy my
>>>>>> version, which is built for Edison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edgar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can checkout the psorting lib from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> git://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/benchmarks/psorting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if the bug crept in when I modified the interface to be
>>>>>>> used in interoperable mode, or it is something from earlier. I have
>>>>>>> been short on for time recently, and hope to visit this soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Edgar Solomonik
>>>>>>> <solomon AT eecs.berkeley.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks, I can now access the files in those two directories. Could
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> open access to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /global/u2/m/madams/psorting/sortinglib/mainData.C
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or tell me where I can find this code in the directories you've
>>>>>>>> opened.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Humm, thought I did this but here it is again:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> m/madams> chmod a+r -R Charm
>>>>>>>>> m/madams> chmod a+x -R Charm
>>>>>>>>> m/madams> chmod a+x -R Chombo
>>>>>>>>> m/madams> chmod a+r -R Chombo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Edgar Solomonik
>>>>>>>>> <solomon AT eecs.berkeley.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems you set the permission on the directory and but not
>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>> inside Charm/ and Chombo/, so I cannot access anything. I also
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> interpret the stack trace, since I don't know what mainData.C is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I can get access to the code, I should be able to do some
>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the sorting library this week, as I am back from travelling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've redacted my copy of this code so you can now grab it and build
>>>>>>>>>> it if
>>>>>>>>>> you wish.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First copy:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /global/u2/m/madams/Charm
>>>>>>>>>> /global/u2/m/madams/Chombo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then set:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PETSC_DIR=/global/homes/m/madams/petsc
>>>>>>>>>> PETSC_ARCH=arch-xc30-opt64
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charm/BUILD_PSORT describes how to setup to run the code. I have
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> building with a slightly different configuration than is described
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> doc so you want to build with:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> make all DIM=3 -j22 USE_CHARMPP=TRUE MPI=TRUE USE_PETSC=TRUE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in Charm/exec/.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now go into Charm/exec/SCALE and run with something like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> aprun -n 512 ../amrCharm3d.Linux.64.CC.ftn.DEBUG.MPI.PETSC.ex
>>>>>>>>>> input512.inputs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 64 core version of this (input64.inputs) runs fine. (Charm++
>>>>>>>>>> actually prints some spurious stuff that would be nice to have
>>>>>>>>>> cleaned up).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will have a look at it today. Any progress on getting access to
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> particular code? It will be good to be able to reproduce the error
>>>>>>>>>>> case for debugging and performance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The sorter runs a weak scaling test with 8 and 64 cores but is
>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging
>>>>>>>>>>>> with 512 cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked at this in ddt on Edison and see stack traces like
>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #8 HistSorting (in_elems_=0, dataIn_=0x0,
>>>>>>>>>>>> out_elems_=0xfffffe00055f,
>>>>>>>>>>>> dataOut_=0x7fffffff5be0) at
>>>>>>>>>>>> /global/u2/m/madams/psorting/sortinglib/mainData.C:111 (at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0x00000000006c595d)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #7 StartCharmScheduler () (at 0x0000000000e47c8b)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #6 CsdScheduler () (at 0x0000000000e52148)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #5 CmiGetNonLocal () (at 0x0000000000e4b022)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #4 PumpMsgs () (at 0x0000000000e4bf20)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #3 PMPI_Iprobe () (at 0x0000000000ed0beb)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #2 MPID_Iprobe () (at 0x0000000000ef5ea9)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #1 MPIDI_CH3I_Progress () (at 0x0000000000effbe3)
>>>>>>>>>>>> #0 MPID_nem_gni_poll () (at 0x0000000000f12de1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed that 'in_elems_' starts at ~32K but it changes as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>> runs, which is puzzling because I do not see any place in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is modified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having given a significant thought to the interface, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclined
>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards the C interface. The C++ interface can be done at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expense
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an extra indirection to C interface. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Separately, I have begun exploration on sorting algorithms for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> near-sorted data. I will give an update if some progress is made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might recommend a model similar to what PETSc uses so let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describe it briefly:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) set env vars like CHARM_DIR PSORT_DIR and CHARM_ARCH.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHAMR_ARCH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just a name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) have build make a file ${PSORT_DIR}/${PSORT_ARCH}/variables.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This file has things like PSORT_LIBS and perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compilers/flags/etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) The all includes this file in their make file and added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ${PSORT_LIBS} (or whatever) to their link like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is proratable, multiple "ARCH" (e.g., xc30, xe6; debug or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single double, etc.) can exist in the same installation. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal structure w/o effecting apps makefiles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway just a suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made changes to the compilation/link setup to remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time dependence on charmc. If you checkout the latest charm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> psorting, you will find the Makefile modified per the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheme.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once the sorting library is compiled, we wrap it (with other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if needed) into say another lib, say libcharm.a (passing -mpi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to charmc). This step echoes the link time path that should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appended to help the linker find Charm related stuff. It also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same to a file called charm_all_libs.sh. What do you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up? I am still considering further changes, and your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Brian Van Straalen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bvstraalen AT lbl.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our main issue is that 8 sorts, of mostly sorted data take up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expontentially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more time in the application. going from .3% at 256
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25% at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4096 processors, for a weak scaling run. most of that in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to get on board with some experts here :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Mark F. Adams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a practical point of view I don't anticipate this new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10% of the apps run time (an maybe far less) so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfacing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower levels of the comm fabric is probably not needed. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, faster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is better and while we may not deploy the lower level stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to: 1) know what the options are and 2) write papers, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to think about, obviously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And our main user uses late model Crays at the main center in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Switzerland so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it might not be hard to deploy the exotic stuff anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, this reminds me - if you are working on Edison, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be mpi-crayxc. crayxc and crayxe targets are similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> due
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common gemini layer but I am working on certain aspects such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topology discovery that will be different. Ah, this may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you may be interested it - Charm has a topology interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Blue Genes and Crays. I am currently working on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generalized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface for different kind of networks, but given the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevalence of tori, it may be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I have an account on Edison.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get the drift of your comment on STL interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referring to the current interface with <key, value>, or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets us customize the length of value, or something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have an account on Edison at NERSC? This is where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built now and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so would be the easiest place to get you stet up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And also as far as interfaces, I am thinking that the STL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as good as any and it has apparently proven to be a good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface, i.e.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressive, easy to use, implementable, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cray is good for me. Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the best way to proceed is for Francesco tell me what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redact from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my repo and I can send you Chombo and Charm--, and work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it built. I was thinking that we would want to get you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I can just manually migrate any changes that you make in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What machine do you want to use? Crays are probably the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if you have a preferred development platform I'm sure we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Francesco Miniati
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fminiati AT hpcrd.lbl.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the code charm, not just Chombo right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I think it's possible, but there is a couple of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has nothing to do with particles) that I would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -fm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 16:02, "Mark F. Adams"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Getting access to this code might be hard. I've cc'ed those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian & Terry: Nikhil has been building the Charm++ MPI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorting in Charm. He would like to be able to run the code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving the interface, which is pretty awful. It works, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile and complex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will it be possible to provide the same code to me, so that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it, and look at the best possible way of linking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also will help in bug fixing and interface design.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I am working on the Charm linker issue, and should be able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve it in near future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. As for hard wiring the value data, I can add a template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix it. Will that be ideal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets think about that. I don't know what the best interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wild about templates … but we can take our time and think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linker issue, on the other hand, would be good to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start integrating Charm++ into the Chombo make system more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragilely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am on travel for most of the next two weeks and the code is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've made it available to the user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edgar, Mark is using the interoperability feature that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charm recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Edgar Solomonik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <edgar.solomonik AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wait, how are you actually using the library? Was the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chombo/particle code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ported to Charm++ or AMPI?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No we use an MPI interface that Nikhil maintains (wrote?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code will try to give each processor roughly n/p
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some threshold of that. Do you want a sort that gives each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same number of elements it entered?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. we want load balancing and fortunately our object all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weight (or close enough).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done, though the best algorithm for doing that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be Radix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sort, since it requires exact splitting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is true. I am adding Edgar to get his view (since he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> originally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented it), and based on that will modify the code to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added code to add a dummy particle on empty processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bad solution but a library should be able to deal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degenerate cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (they happen all the time).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edgar, Any comment on handling empty processor? Also, I am a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprised that a core ended with zero particles even though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1000 particles/core.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure exactly what is going on here but these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrate via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other mechanism than the sort. I think. So the sort not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved data locality but it also load balances. So the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbalanced, maybe. Also you can get situations were you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very sparse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and you might not want to have less than say 100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so you leave some cores empty and don't go the the trouble of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making a sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communicator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway we will start pounding on this and see what we get. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be done as far as getting it working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This library is pretty painful to work with at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grateful that you packaged something up for us to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future there are two things that need to be fixed: 1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charm++ linker (if at all possible) and 2) hardwiring the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data type in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sort library.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Nikhil Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nikhil.life AT gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To confirm the status, does it work with multiple sorters now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and production version? Were you required to put in any hacks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tested with and without -with-production.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not change any Charm++ code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did run the test that I have with 256 cores. And even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there an average of ~1000 particles / core the application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many empty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cores and the sorter died with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [112] Assertion "num_elements > 0" failed in file Bucket.C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 61.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empty processors are the kinds of things that you have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the real world and this application will have them most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some AMR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels might not have a lot of particles and forming sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communicators to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filter out empty processors would be ugly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Nikhil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Mark F. Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mark.adams AT columbia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, it is actually working. It just prints stuff out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Van Straalen Lawrence Berkeley Lab
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BVStraalen AT lbl.gov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computational Research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 486-4976 Division (crd.lbl.gov)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it
>>>>>>>>>>> once :
>>>>>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it once :
>>>>>>> your job is done."
>>>>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it once :
>>>> your job is done."
>>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it once :
>>> your job is done."
>>> Nikhil Jain,
>>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>>> +1-217-979-0918
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it once :
>> your job is done."
>> Nikhil Jain,
>> nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
>> +1-217-979-0918
>>
>



--
"Success may ditch you most of the times, but if you ditch it once :
your job is done."
Nikhil Jain,
nikhil.life AT gmail.com,
+1-217-979-0918





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