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Re: [charm] [ppl] Custom reduction type contributing a user-defined type


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  • From: Tom Quinn <trq AT astro.washington.edu>
  • To: Eric Bohm <ebohm AT illinois.edu>
  • Cc: charm AT cs.uiuc.edu
  • Subject: Re: [charm] [ppl] Custom reduction type contributing a user-defined type
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
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  • List-id: CHARM parallel programming system <charm.cs.uiuc.edu>

You might want to look at some of the reducers in ChaNGa (Reductions.cpp). See, e.g. the "boxGrowth" reducer. For a really crazy example, look in
salsa/ResolutionServer/Reductions.cpp. In there is a "pythonReduce" which serializes Python objects and implements the "Map/Reduce" paradigm in Charm++.

Tom Quinn Astronomy, University of Washington
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Eric Bohm wrote:

The sparseReducer library does some of that work already.  However it
currently only works on sparse arrays of POD data.

On 07/20/2015 03:46 PM, Orion Lawlor wrote:
Nikhil, it is true the reduction system only works with a
contiguous block of bytes, but the same is actually true of the
Charm++ message passing system at the bottom level--parameter
marshalling is a fairly thin layer that serializes the C++
object to a buffer, sends it as a simple flat message, and
unpacks it on the other side.  Couldn't Jozsef do the same thing
with a custom reducer type--unpack the inputs from flat bytes,
combine them as C++ objects, then reserialize before returning?
I'd reply to him directly, but it'd be good if somebody tested and
wrote up a good example for the manual before I mislead customers with
my decade-old Charm++ knowledge!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Nikhil Jain
<nikhil.jain AT acm.org>
wrote:
Hi Jozsef,

Unfortunately, contributions to reductions have to be a
contiguous
buffer of data. Advanced support for contributing and
reducing non-POD
does not exist in Charm++ currently. The round about way
you described
is the only method I know of.

--Nikhil

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Jozsef Bakosi

<jbakosi AT gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> What is the recommended way to define a custom reduction
in which chare
> array elements contribute user-defined-type (ptentially
non-POD) objects?
>
> What I have in mind is to convert an existing
contribution of chare array
> elements using the vanilla entry-method call, estimate()
to a typed (or
> non-typed) reduction. Example:
>
> User-defined non-POD type:
>
> class Cat {
>   std::map< int, double > catmap;
>   void pup( PUP::er& p ) { ... }
> };
>
> === Inefficient contribution using existing vanilla
entry method call to
> host from array elements ===
>
> In some member function of a chare array:
>
> std::vector< Cat > v;
> hostproxy.estimate( v );        // non-reduction
contribute a vector of Cats
>
> In the host's .ci file:
>
> entry void estimate( std::vector< Cat >& v );
>
> === Pseudo-code yielding a more efficient reduction to
host from array
> elements ===
>
> Now in some member function of a chare array:
>
> std::vector< Cat > v;
> // reduction contribute a vector of Cats
> contribute( ... some way to specify the contribution v,
hostproxy, and a
> custom reduction type on how to merge a Cat across a
reduction );
>
> Now in the host's .ci file:
>
> entry [reductiontarget] void estimate( some way to
receive a std::vector<
> Cat > );
>
> I think I should define a new reduction type (as in 16.2), but
that example
> defines a custom reduction on a POD data of two short ints.
What I think I
> need is a custom reduction on a non-POD type (Cat, containing
a std::map).
>
> One solution I know I can do is to convert the std::map in Cat
to a POD for
> the purpose of contributing to a reduction, but I'm wondering
if there is a
> better/cleaner way to do this.
>
> Thanks,
> Jozsef
>
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http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/people/nikhil
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