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- From: Daniele Filaretti <dfilaretti AT gmail.com>
- To: "Rosu, Grigore" <grosu AT illinois.edu>
- Cc: k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu, Sergio Maffeis <maffeis AT doc.ic.ac.uk>
- Subject: Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps"
- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:21:28 +0100
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On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:45, Rosu, Grigore wrote:
Just curious: have you defined the ENTIRE _javascript_?
When we defined C and looked into the existing C definitions, we found that all previous semantics were quite partial, dropping "inconvenient" features (e.g., longjumps, goto, etc.). Also, is your _javascript_ semantics executable? We are also very interested in defining an executable semantics of _javascript_ in K, and then to use it to verify programs (using the methodology in our OOPSLA'12 paper).
Well, probably there's still something missing (it is still a work in progress), but all the relevant features are already there (including scopes, prototype chains, functions, assignment, this construct,
with construct, new, delete, sequence, conditional, while loops, basic unary and binary
operators, and typeof...).
In fact one of the goals was to have a comprehensive definition, without dropping too many inconvenient features.
The semantics is executable in the sense that we have developed an interpreter and proved it correct w.r.t. the semantics (everything done in Coq, the interpreter can then be extracted to OCaml or Haskell).
I cc my supervisor Sergio Maffeis, as he may be interested.
Kind regards,
Daniele
Regarding our K2Coq translator, we only have plans so far and concrete ideas, maybe even a rough prototype, but we are not there yet. We'd like to do several backends at the same time: Coq, PVS, ACL2. All these need almost the same transformations on the K definitions, except for a last step which turns things into the target language.
Cheers,
Grigore
p.s. I CCed the k-user list.
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From: Daniele Filaretti [dfilaretti AT gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:26 AM
To: Rosu, Grigore
Subject: Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps"
It works! Thank you Stefan and Grigore!
...I have a couple of other (non technical) questions: I read somewhere that there is a future plan for implementing Coq output from K. Is there any updated information available? That would be very interesting (by the way: we've formalised _javascript_ in Coq, this is the website if someone is interested: http://jscert.org/)
Last one: in the example folder of K there is a _javascript_ project; I've been trying to compile the pdf but it didn't work (after one day it was still running:). Does anybody have that pdf? I would be happy to have a look at it.
Many thanks again,
Daniele
On 23 Jul 2012, at 13:58, Rosu, Grigore wrote:Or even nicer (in the K sense):rule [ass_ref_1]:<k> X := & Y:Id => . ...</k><env>... Y |-> N (. => X |-> N) ...</env>If the current K parser gives you headaches, you may try to write .Map instead of .Welcome to K, Daniele,Grigore________________________________________From: k-user-bounces AT cs.uiuc.edu [k-user-bounces AT cs.uiuc.edu] on behalf of Stefan Ciobaca [stefan.ciobaca AT gmail.com]Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:54 AMTo: Daniele FilarettiCc: k-user AT cs.uiuc.eduSubject: Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps"Hello Daniele,Welcome to K. I'll try to answer your question directly:rule [ass_ref_1]:<k> X := & Y:Id => . ... </k><env> ... Y |-> N => X |-> N ... </env>Did you try to do the following?rule [ass_ref_1]:<k> X := & Y:Id => . ... </k><env> ... Y |-> N => (Y |-> N X |-> N) ... </env>This replaces Y |- N by both X |- N and Y |- N, so it keeps Y bound. Ihope it solves your problem. Let us know if it works for you.Cheers,Stefan_______________________________________________k-user mailing listk-user AT cs.uiuc.eduhttp://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/k-user
- [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Daniele Filaretti, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Stefan Ciobaca, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
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- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Mark Hills, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Daniele Filaretti, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Daniele Filaretti, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Mark Hills, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Daniele Filaretti, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
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- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Rosu, Grigore, 07/23/2012
- Re: [K-user] new user: assignment by reference (as in PHP) and available operations on "Maps", Stefan Ciobaca, 07/23/2012
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