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- From: "Guth, Dwight" <dguth2 AT illinois.edu>
- To: Mark Hills <Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>, Emmanuel Castro <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
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- Subject: Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:55:34 +0000
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You are also more than welcome to download the Python semantics I developed (found at http://code.google.com/p/k-python-semantics/) and examine the garbage collection algorithm it uses. It is fairly simplistic, being a very basic stop-the-world reference
counting scheme, but it shows how you can recursively traverse the configuration to find all references to an object.
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From: Mark Hills <Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>
Date: 07/22/2013 7:45 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Emmanuel Castro <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
Cc: k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Hills <Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>
Date: 07/22/2013 7:45 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Emmanuel Castro <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
Cc: k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
Hi Manu,
We actually looked at garbage collection in an OO language in this paper:
http://fsl.cs.uiuc.edu/index.php/Memory_Representations_in_Rewriting_Logic_Semantics_Definitions
Note that this wasn't using the K framework, but instead used a K style of definition with rewriting logic semantics and Maude.
I do think that normalizing the store would be an interesting topic to look at. It definitely isn't trivial -- there has been some work in K on creating an abstraction of memory usage for programs that cycle (I believe the proper reference is here: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-37635-1_4), and I'm sure there are many other opportunities to apply techniques from areas like symmetric reduction to K specifications. If there is other work on this that I haven't mentioned, hopefully someone else on the list will jump in :)
Cheers,
Mark
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From: "Emmanuel Castro" <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
To: k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:05:50 PM
Subject: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
Does someone has ever worked on garbage collection in K?
I would like to mesure the memory consumption of some programs, and thus I want to remove the unused elements from the store.
More generaly, I am interested in normalising the store. During a non-deterministic krun, I often end up with syntactically different, yet semantically equivalent configurations.
<env> a |-> #symInt(1) b |-> #symInt(2)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "aa" #symInt(2) |-> "bb" </store>
vs.
<env> a |-> #symInt(2) b |-> #symInt(1)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "bb" #symInt(2) |-> "aa" </store>
Is there well known techiques of normalisation?
Merci d'avance
Manu
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We actually looked at garbage collection in an OO language in this paper:
http://fsl.cs.uiuc.edu/index.php/Memory_Representations_in_Rewriting_Logic_Semantics_Definitions
Note that this wasn't using the K framework, but instead used a K style of definition with rewriting logic semantics and Maude.
I do think that normalizing the store would be an interesting topic to look at. It definitely isn't trivial -- there has been some work in K on creating an abstraction of memory usage for programs that cycle (I believe the proper reference is here: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-37635-1_4), and I'm sure there are many other opportunities to apply techniques from areas like symmetric reduction to K specifications. If there is other work on this that I haven't mentioned, hopefully someone else on the list will jump in :)
Cheers,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emmanuel Castro" <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
To: k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:05:50 PM
Subject: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
Does someone has ever worked on garbage collection in K?
I would like to mesure the memory consumption of some programs, and thus I want to remove the unused elements from the store.
More generaly, I am interested in normalising the store. During a non-deterministic krun, I often end up with syntactically different, yet semantically equivalent configurations.
<env> a |-> #symInt(1) b |-> #symInt(2)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "aa" #symInt(2) |-> "bb" </store>
vs.
<env> a |-> #symInt(2) b |-> #symInt(1)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "bb" #symInt(2) |-> "aa" </store>
Is there well known techiques of normalisation?
Merci d'avance
Manu
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- [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Emmanuel Castro, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Mark Hills, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Guth, Dwight, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Mark Hills, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Robby Findler, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Mark Hills, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Guth, Dwight, 07/22/2013
- Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation, Mark Hills, 07/22/2013
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