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  • From: Mark Hills <Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>
  • To: Emmanuel Castro <emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>, k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
  • Subject: Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:04:39 +0200 (CEST)
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The paper I mentioned uses a mark and sweep algorithm, but still a fairly
basic one -- looking at more realistic garbage collection algorithms, like
those used in actual languages, could be interesting. We were focused mainly
on seeing if, even using a straight-forward algorithm, we could improve
execution performance, but didn't look at the impact of this on our ability
to analyze or verify programs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight Guth"
<dguth2 AT illinois.edu>
To: "Mark Hills"
<Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>,
"Emmanuel Castro"
<emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
Cc:
k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:55:34 PM
Subject: RE: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation

You are also more than welcome to download the Python semantics I developed
(found at http://code.google.com/p/k-python-semantics/) and examine the
garbage collection algorithm it uses. It is fairly simplistic, being a very
basic stop-the-world reference counting scheme, but it shows how you can
recursively traverse the configuration to find all references to an object.


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Hills
<Mark.Hills AT cwi.nl>
Date: 07/22/2013 7:45 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Emmanuel Castro
<emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
Cc:
k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation


Hi Manu,

We actually looked at garbage collection in an OO language in this paper:

http://fsl.cs.uiuc.edu/index.php/Memory_Representations_in_Rewriting_Logic_Semantics_Definitions

Note that this wasn't using the K framework, but instead used a K style of
definition with rewriting logic semantics and Maude.

I do think that normalizing the store would be an interesting topic to look
at. It definitely isn't trivial -- there has been some work in K on creating
an abstraction of memory usage for programs that cycle (I believe the proper
reference is here:
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-37635-1_4), and I'm sure
there are many other opportunities to apply techniques from areas like
symmetric reduction to K specifications. If there is other work on this that
I haven't mentioned, hopefully someone else on the list will jump in :)

Cheers,

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emmanuel Castro"
<emmanuel.castro AT laposte.net>
To:
k-user AT cs.uiuc.edu
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:05:50 PM
Subject: [K-user] Semantics of garbage collecting and store normalisation

Does someone has ever worked on garbage collection in K?
I would like to mesure the memory consumption of some programs, and thus I
want to remove the unused elements from the store.

More generaly, I am interested in normalising the store. During a
non-deterministic krun, I often end up with syntactically different, yet
semantically equivalent configurations.

<env> a |-> #symInt(1) b |-> #symInt(2)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "aa" #symInt(2) |-> "bb" </store>
vs.
<env> a |-> #symInt(2) b |-> #symInt(1)</env>
<store> #symInt(1) |-> "bb" #symInt(2) |-> "aa" </store>

Is there well known techiques of normalisation?

Merci d'avance

Manu

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